conchshell
07-11 11:30 AM
Guys thanks for your appriciation on my recent blog "Power Behind A Flower". Please note that the reason behind this writing is to help our movement and encourage people to fight against injustice. Now the question is what's next??
With a successful flower campaign to USCIS, we must draw our conclusions from this success, and use the outcome to make the San Jose rally a success.
Please note that legal immigrants is a small handful set of people. Just a usual rally/demonstration will not make a dramatic impact. We have learned from the flower campaign that if we use innovative-peaceful ways of demonstrations, and manage Public Relations and Media well, we can be successful once again.
Please think and try to come up with some ideas. I have come up with these four ideas:
1. Project Martin Luther King Jr. as our hero in these rallies: Please understand that local Amrican people better understand about Martin Luther King Jr. andhis idealogy then M.K. Gandhi. My suggestion is that we should include large picture posters of Martin Luther King Jr. with a slogan "We legals too have a dream". We should also take Gandhi's posters. There is a possibility that all Black American organization may lend their support to us.
2. An act that attracts media attention: Please remember the scene from Gandhi movie when protesters led by Gandhi peacefully burned their resident permits in South Africa. To do something similar and show our symbolic protest against USCIS, we can publically burn a Photocopy of our H1B approvals (I-797). Please note that we are not asking people to burn the original I-797 approval but a photocopy of the document. This will send a message that taking the great pain in obtaining these legal documents are not helping us getting a better treatment by USCIS. This act will perfectly portrey the pain of legal immigrants and once again will attract media and newsprint to keeps us in headlines. This should be part of our demonstrations.
3. Waive American Flags: Please understand that recent media reports that only Indians are responsible for the flower campaign may hurt the campaign in the longer term. Please waive small American flags and show our solidarity with local Americans.
4. Distrubute a flower with a pamphlet to the people passing by at the demonstration site. A well worded paper will be required that can project our problems to the people.
Please share if you come up with innovative ideas to make these rallies a huge success.
With a successful flower campaign to USCIS, we must draw our conclusions from this success, and use the outcome to make the San Jose rally a success.
Please note that legal immigrants is a small handful set of people. Just a usual rally/demonstration will not make a dramatic impact. We have learned from the flower campaign that if we use innovative-peaceful ways of demonstrations, and manage Public Relations and Media well, we can be successful once again.
Please think and try to come up with some ideas. I have come up with these four ideas:
1. Project Martin Luther King Jr. as our hero in these rallies: Please understand that local Amrican people better understand about Martin Luther King Jr. andhis idealogy then M.K. Gandhi. My suggestion is that we should include large picture posters of Martin Luther King Jr. with a slogan "We legals too have a dream". We should also take Gandhi's posters. There is a possibility that all Black American organization may lend their support to us.
2. An act that attracts media attention: Please remember the scene from Gandhi movie when protesters led by Gandhi peacefully burned their resident permits in South Africa. To do something similar and show our symbolic protest against USCIS, we can publically burn a Photocopy of our H1B approvals (I-797). Please note that we are not asking people to burn the original I-797 approval but a photocopy of the document. This will send a message that taking the great pain in obtaining these legal documents are not helping us getting a better treatment by USCIS. This act will perfectly portrey the pain of legal immigrants and once again will attract media and newsprint to keeps us in headlines. This should be part of our demonstrations.
3. Waive American Flags: Please understand that recent media reports that only Indians are responsible for the flower campaign may hurt the campaign in the longer term. Please waive small American flags and show our solidarity with local Americans.
4. Distrubute a flower with a pamphlet to the people passing by at the demonstration site. A well worded paper will be required that can project our problems to the people.
Please share if you come up with innovative ideas to make these rallies a huge success.
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pallavan
09-24 07:10 PM
:eek: what is absurd is your thought process! :eek:
Stay in line buddy, your system abuse propaganda is only going to bite you back. Dont forget you are in the same category :D
I am moderately amused by your usage of the phrase "Stay in line" :)
The ones who are not staying in line and cutting ahead are the EB3 folks who are porting to EB2 ! Their line is the EB3 line. But they want to cut into the EB2 line whenever convenient. Atleast thats how most EB2 (and EB3) folks perceive the PD porting process.
There, does that explain it in your own terms ?
Stay in line buddy, your system abuse propaganda is only going to bite you back. Dont forget you are in the same category :D
I am moderately amused by your usage of the phrase "Stay in line" :)
The ones who are not staying in line and cutting ahead are the EB3 folks who are porting to EB2 ! Their line is the EB3 line. But they want to cut into the EB2 line whenever convenient. Atleast thats how most EB2 (and EB3) folks perceive the PD porting process.
There, does that explain it in your own terms ?
doshhar
07-07 05:33 PM
Can we finalize the date for rally? Is July 14th ok with everyone of you? We have one full week to work on spreading this to different groups.
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raydhan
06-20 09:16 AM
logiclife,
Thanks for the update. Let me share my concern with the CIR. Do you think that someone (lawmakers) is going to officially vote for the CIR to die? I don't believe so. Discussions, debates, political bickering and fingerpointing can drag on for months and even years because no one is officially willing to kill it for obvious political reasons. How long do you think we (IV) can wait until we start pushing for other bills?
Appreciate your feedback.
Thanks for the update. Let me share my concern with the CIR. Do you think that someone (lawmakers) is going to officially vote for the CIR to die? I don't believe so. Discussions, debates, political bickering and fingerpointing can drag on for months and even years because no one is officially willing to kill it for obvious political reasons. How long do you think we (IV) can wait until we start pushing for other bills?
Appreciate your feedback.
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harpomarx
07-10 01:04 PM
Can anyone do a cartoon and we can post it on the internet?
How about a caricature of Gonzalez holding a sign as follows:
WASHINGTON�The Department of State has revised its July Flower Bulletin to reflect that all available flowers have been allocated for fiscal year 2007.
As a result, beginning today, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) is rejecting applications to send flowers (Form I-356937) filed by aliens whose priority dates were current under the original July Flower Bulletin.
U.S. immigration law limits the number of employment-based immigrant flower receipts that may be issued each fiscal year.
How about a caricature of Gonzalez holding a sign as follows:
WASHINGTON�The Department of State has revised its July Flower Bulletin to reflect that all available flowers have been allocated for fiscal year 2007.
As a result, beginning today, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) is rejecting applications to send flowers (Form I-356937) filed by aliens whose priority dates were current under the original July Flower Bulletin.
U.S. immigration law limits the number of employment-based immigrant flower receipts that may be issued each fiscal year.
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06-08 06:44 PM
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How did you get this information so fast? Did you call them?
How did you get this information so fast? Did you call them?
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abq_gc
08-19 12:13 PM
My 2 paisa ( though it has no value anymore anywhere)
First and foremost we have to realize that we are fee paying customers to USCIS. We have a right to demand better customer service. The reports and other kind of data they are releasing currently is an insult to the high skilled immigrant community. It is time we call out that the king (USCIS) has no clothes. They have been feeding us garbage disguised as reports and offical data. Anybody with a high school degree would say that the reports and data provided have zero value since they are not complete.
How do we get the right kind of information from USCIS?
Here are the steps
a) Send letters to the Dept chief asking for the data we need and wait for 3-4 weeks for a response. ( Data we should ask for, apps pending with PD's and EB category for every month starting from 1998)
b) Send another letter to the President and copy USCIS chief on that. Wait for another 3-4 weeks
c) If we do not get any satisfactory information after the previous 2 steps and 2 months of waiting, we should do a relay protest in DC and in front of all the USCIS centers until they provide us with the exact data.
By doing this we woould have put enough spotlight on USCIS and also our problmes would have got enough coverage in the media. From here we can try and work with the various agencies to push for our other agendas. Now we will have a clearer picture of what the situation is and ask for the right things. At the same time the agencies will have the better information with them to look in to our issues.
Comments are welcome.
I agree.. the amount of fees paid to USCIS keeps on increasing every year and the customer service degrades proportionally every year.. they need to understand that they are there for US(the legal immigrant community).. we have to make USCIS's proceedings more transparent and make them more accountable.. whats happenening with EB2-I can very well happen with EB-3 in the future...once they become current....
First and foremost we have to realize that we are fee paying customers to USCIS. We have a right to demand better customer service. The reports and other kind of data they are releasing currently is an insult to the high skilled immigrant community. It is time we call out that the king (USCIS) has no clothes. They have been feeding us garbage disguised as reports and offical data. Anybody with a high school degree would say that the reports and data provided have zero value since they are not complete.
How do we get the right kind of information from USCIS?
Here are the steps
a) Send letters to the Dept chief asking for the data we need and wait for 3-4 weeks for a response. ( Data we should ask for, apps pending with PD's and EB category for every month starting from 1998)
b) Send another letter to the President and copy USCIS chief on that. Wait for another 3-4 weeks
c) If we do not get any satisfactory information after the previous 2 steps and 2 months of waiting, we should do a relay protest in DC and in front of all the USCIS centers until they provide us with the exact data.
By doing this we woould have put enough spotlight on USCIS and also our problmes would have got enough coverage in the media. From here we can try and work with the various agencies to push for our other agendas. Now we will have a clearer picture of what the situation is and ask for the right things. At the same time the agencies will have the better information with them to look in to our issues.
Comments are welcome.
I agree.. the amount of fees paid to USCIS keeps on increasing every year and the customer service degrades proportionally every year.. they need to understand that they are there for US(the legal immigrant community).. we have to make USCIS's proceedings more transparent and make them more accountable.. whats happenening with EB2-I can very well happen with EB-3 in the future...once they become current....
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cjain
11-01 05:18 PM
pls try to understand...my statement is valid for beyond the 180 day period....i agree that one should not change before 180 days irrespective of whether the I-140 is approved or not...
the question is after the 180 day period..and my point is aytes memo clearly states that the I-140 need not be approved..
So what? I-140 was "approvable" but now employer revokes it and therefore 485 denial becuase 180 days have not been passed. And that is why one never should even try to use AC21 before 180 days period. Even I-140 is already approved, revocation of it will initiate 485 denial.
the question is after the 180 day period..and my point is aytes memo clearly states that the I-140 need not be approved..
So what? I-140 was "approvable" but now employer revokes it and therefore 485 denial becuase 180 days have not been passed. And that is why one never should even try to use AC21 before 180 days period. Even I-140 is already approved, revocation of it will initiate 485 denial.
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lkrastogi
07-07 10:26 PM
Lets do a poll and we will get some idea about the count. Idea should be that each IV member who is voting "Yes" for the poll should try to convince and bring some more friends (non IV members who got affected with July VB) with him to participate in the rally
Please mention how many members from family..
IF we get minimum 1000 then we can talk to core members.
Please mention how many members from family..
IF we get minimum 1000 then we can talk to core members.
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kerstbrd
07-02 04:17 PM
Yeah, I know my life sucks. I have a priority date of Jan 2003. Got filed under EB3 even though did MS here... I begged and pleaded that they atleast send it on Jan 28th. For god's sake, I was qualified all the way since June 1st. I gave all the documents necessary by June 6th itself. Well, but they had to file on 29th.
man I could swear that was me posting except my priority date is in 2004.
maybe we have the same lawyer.
man I could swear that was me posting except my priority date is in 2004.
maybe we have the same lawyer.
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09-13 03:10 PM
Create a new thread for TSC.
Sanjeev:
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Sanjeev:
I don't know how to create a new thread. Will you please tell me how to do do? Thanks a lot.
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03-07 11:48 AM
Nothing had been achieven in last 9 years. Last thing when anything that congress did for immigration was AC21 in 2000. Than how do you thing whatever our agenda is, can be achieved ?? While I think our agenda has to be modified so that we don't ask them what they have been rejecting repeatedly.
Why dont we all stick to a common agenda where there are more chances rather than everyone coming with some and in the end you know what happens...
IV is a platform where people do things together NOT everyone digressing in their own ways..not right...
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BharatPremi
07-10 05:22 PM
So it's the day before the flowers will be delivered and let's make the most out of this story. Here are the links to the press release to use
PDF version (http://www.touchdownusa.org/pdf/USCISFlowerCampaign.pdf) that can be sent as an attachment.
HTML version (http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=ap9x7pmvk6s_32c3khvg) that can be copy-pasted as text of the email.This (http://www.touchdownusa.org/pdf/Response.pdf) is our updated press release in response to the message on the USCIS website.
Most news organizations have dedicated reporters to cover immigration issues; so our first contact should be with them, since they'd be most interested in this story. Contact the writers of any immigration related stories that you've read recently - contact either by phone, or by email. If you are contacting by email here are a few helpful tips
Make sure that title/information of that person's most recent article is used in the subject line. Something like, 'Follow up to Green Card Woes in WSJ'
Refer to the article in the body of your email. For example
You recently wrote about the frustrations of green card applicants due to a reversal by the USCIS (Wall Street Journal - July 5, 2007 - 'Reversal Frustrates Green Card Applicants'). I am one of those skilled, legal applicants and we are planning to protest against this decision the USCIS in a unique and peaceful manner - by sending hundreds, if not thousands of flower bouquets to the director of USCIS, Mr. Gonzalez on July 10th.
After this, you can say that please refer to the attached press release for more information
Wrap up your email with something like, "This is probably the first time when skilled, legal professionals are participating in an event like this at this scale and it goes to show the level of anxiety in the community right now. Would you be willing to write about this event as a follow-up to your previous article?"
There is no harm in giving your contact number to let the reporter know that you can be contacted for any follow-up questions.
Other things that we can do to create a buzz around it is to talk about it in blogs, various forums etc., specially if you are a blogger. Already, if you search USCIS+Flowers in Technorati, there are a good number of hits - we should try and increase them.
Call up your local public radio station and tell them about this event (http://www.npr.org/stations/)
Any other ideas regarding increasing the visibility of this campaign should be posted on this thread.
I would try to contact FM 104.9 and AM 700 in Dallas both radio stations are delivering programs in Hindi and Urdu and to the extent very popular in SOuth Assian community. I would update here about my efforts.
PDF version (http://www.touchdownusa.org/pdf/USCISFlowerCampaign.pdf) that can be sent as an attachment.
HTML version (http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=ap9x7pmvk6s_32c3khvg) that can be copy-pasted as text of the email.This (http://www.touchdownusa.org/pdf/Response.pdf) is our updated press release in response to the message on the USCIS website.
Most news organizations have dedicated reporters to cover immigration issues; so our first contact should be with them, since they'd be most interested in this story. Contact the writers of any immigration related stories that you've read recently - contact either by phone, or by email. If you are contacting by email here are a few helpful tips
Make sure that title/information of that person's most recent article is used in the subject line. Something like, 'Follow up to Green Card Woes in WSJ'
Refer to the article in the body of your email. For example
You recently wrote about the frustrations of green card applicants due to a reversal by the USCIS (Wall Street Journal - July 5, 2007 - 'Reversal Frustrates Green Card Applicants'). I am one of those skilled, legal applicants and we are planning to protest against this decision the USCIS in a unique and peaceful manner - by sending hundreds, if not thousands of flower bouquets to the director of USCIS, Mr. Gonzalez on July 10th.
After this, you can say that please refer to the attached press release for more information
Wrap up your email with something like, "This is probably the first time when skilled, legal professionals are participating in an event like this at this scale and it goes to show the level of anxiety in the community right now. Would you be willing to write about this event as a follow-up to your previous article?"
There is no harm in giving your contact number to let the reporter know that you can be contacted for any follow-up questions.
Other things that we can do to create a buzz around it is to talk about it in blogs, various forums etc., specially if you are a blogger. Already, if you search USCIS+Flowers in Technorati, there are a good number of hits - we should try and increase them.
Call up your local public radio station and tell them about this event (http://www.npr.org/stations/)
Any other ideas regarding increasing the visibility of this campaign should be posted on this thread.
I would try to contact FM 104.9 and AM 700 in Dallas both radio stations are delivering programs in Hindi and Urdu and to the extent very popular in SOuth Assian community. I would update here about my efforts.
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04-14 10:59 AM
I think you also need a Canadian address.
My bad, it totally skipped my mind.
PR cards can only be mailed with in Canada.
My bad, it totally skipped my mind.
PR cards can only be mailed with in Canada.
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gbof
08-27 09:14 PM
it is not to prevent 'de-magnetization' but to prevent rfid communication. All new passport and other govt id 'cards' ship with rfid chip in them which contains encrypted biometrics info. Since rfid info can be read even 10 meters away with right equipment, it is better to put it in a metallic sleeve (creating a Faraday cage) to prevent anyone from sniffing then biometrics info.
here is more info ..
SecureIDNews | New U.S. 'Green Card' using optical stripe, RFID technology (http://www.secureidnews.com/2010/05/12/new-u-s-green-card-using-optical-stripe-rfid-technology)
edit: some additional info, mythbusters did a segment on the myth of demagentized credit card. It would take a really very strong magnet to demagnetize the strip, definitely not the kind you would carry in your pocket.
Without getting into the science, I tried to pass on the tip to GC holders (and expectants) giving a simple example... btw: I appreciate your posting explaining to like minded......'joy the w'end
here is more info ..
SecureIDNews | New U.S. 'Green Card' using optical stripe, RFID technology (http://www.secureidnews.com/2010/05/12/new-u-s-green-card-using-optical-stripe-rfid-technology)
edit: some additional info, mythbusters did a segment on the myth of demagentized credit card. It would take a really very strong magnet to demagnetize the strip, definitely not the kind you would carry in your pocket.
Without getting into the science, I tried to pass on the tip to GC holders (and expectants) giving a simple example... btw: I appreciate your posting explaining to like minded......'joy the w'end
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gcnm04
10-03 01:23 PM
Originally Posted by Rohan99
If you are still waiting then please add your name
Important: if you receive the RN then plz write in front of your name, what is RN(if honored actual RN), how did u get RN(check, lawyer, called USCIS), FP date,
July 3rd at 9:03 received by R.William
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If you are still waiting then please add your name
Important: if you receive the RN then plz write in front of your name, what is RN(if honored actual RN), how did u get RN(check, lawyer, called USCIS), FP date,
July 3rd at 9:03 received by R.William
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02-09 09:33 PM
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Narenda Modi has been banned from visiting USA.
You do the reasoning :D
Narenda Modi has been banned from visiting USA.
You do the reasoning :D
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