snathan
08-18 05:32 PM
They would however have to disclose that period of out of stay when they file the GC as G325 A asks for all status history. In other words, you will get screwed.
Whoever has some approval by means of luck or fluke does not make it the law. They will take the bite when time comes.
Exactly.....You nailed it correctly.
Whoever has some approval by means of luck or fluke does not make it the law. They will take the bite when time comes.
Exactly.....You nailed it correctly.
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yanj
12-16 12:46 PM
You can not work after 7/9/2007.
The end of the OPT will determine when you must stop working.
The 60 days grace period is only for you to take care of business before you go back home. In your case you must wait for 2 months and 24 days before returning to work otherwise you will be in violation of your status.
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The end of the OPT will determine when you must stop working.
The 60 days grace period is only for you to take care of business before you go back home. In your case you must wait for 2 months and 24 days before returning to work otherwise you will be in violation of your status.
andy
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knowDOL
05-19 10:26 AM
One more thing, never disclose anything with company's attorney, they will be loyal to your employer and not you. Look for soem other attorney.
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nixstor
08-24 11:29 AM
http://boards.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=222935
I understand the plight, but you aint alone bro.. 360K people are along with you. Dont look for shortcuts (in case if both the posts are by one person ) and get what you deserve. Do what you can to educate your friends and contribute.
I understand the plight, but you aint alone bro.. 360K people are along with you. Dont look for shortcuts (in case if both the posts are by one person ) and get what you deserve. Do what you can to educate your friends and contribute.
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lskreddy
04-12 09:51 AM
Can you not reply anonymously? If you couldn't, if you respond, I don't think they would put your existing application in jeopardy if you respond truthfully. You certainly have a good reason to move and they seem to already know that.
If you are worried, why don't you wait until your H1's approved and then respond? Its never too late to report these scumbags and you would be doing a service to others who might fall trap.
If you decide to not report, I totally understand. It is fair to feel queasy with anything related to immigration here.
If you are worried, why don't you wait until your H1's approved and then respond? Its never too late to report these scumbags and you would be doing a service to others who might fall trap.
If you decide to not report, I totally understand. It is fair to feel queasy with anything related to immigration here.
gc_chahiye
09-26 07:50 PM
also it puts things in perspective. Seeing this family getting torn apart (amazingly in their case there is no country where all can live together) makes my own H1 and GC related problems appear very tiny.
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hopein07
03-16 12:25 PM
I think sertasheep put it right. For Indian MBBS, US trained docs the best options outside US are the middle east, Dubai in particular, and India. In India Appolo and Escorts hire foreign trained docs but remember India also does not recognize US PG degree so they cannot work in Govt hospitals but they can always open their own shop just on the basis of MBBS and boldly put US degree on the big board. India is truly the land of the free in this respect. You cannot even imagine doing this in US or any other developed country.
But do not write off Canada just yet because there are still some jobs there for physicians and it's not as if US trained docs are not allowed at all. Canada is worth giving a shot but Australia, New Zealand, UK, etc. are all closed and dead options for a variety of reasons ranging from licensing process, immigration process, very few training positions, very scarce medical jobs, racism, discrimination etc. Middle East has it's own issues specially if you are not a Muslim although Dubai is quite modern and welcoming but kids will be influenced and politics there is also quite nauseating. That just leaves you with India and you already know the ins and outs of it.
But do not write off Canada just yet because there are still some jobs there for physicians and it's not as if US trained docs are not allowed at all. Canada is worth giving a shot but Australia, New Zealand, UK, etc. are all closed and dead options for a variety of reasons ranging from licensing process, immigration process, very few training positions, very scarce medical jobs, racism, discrimination etc. Middle East has it's own issues specially if you are not a Muslim although Dubai is quite modern and welcoming but kids will be influenced and politics there is also quite nauseating. That just leaves you with India and you already know the ins and outs of it.
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10-08 08:14 PM
Once a person accepts employment using EAD, he/she gives up non-immigrant status. Next time, when he/she applies EAD renewal he/she must write the present "immigration status" in the renewal from. That time he/she can not write "H4", while working on EAD.
Similarly, when working on EAD, you can not apply for H4 extension. All your" A" number indicates what status you are in to USCIS.
Similarly, when working on EAD, you can not apply for H4 extension. All your" A" number indicates what status you are in to USCIS.
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kaisersose
07-16 02:39 PM
You've got to hand it to these attorneys. They have a way of writing a lot without saying anything.
Sheela Murthy excels in this art. In this situation, should we still file for 485 or not? She will write a whole page on this and finally say you have to make that decision yourself.
Thank you, but I already know that one!
Sheela Murthy excels in this art. In this situation, should we still file for 485 or not? She will write a whole page on this and finally say you have to make that decision yourself.
Thank you, but I already know that one!
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smarth
02-01 09:42 AM
congratulations...
We r sill waiting for GC, no idea when I will give message "Received GC"...:-)
We r sill waiting for GC, no idea when I will give message "Received GC"...:-)
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raysaikat
01-06 03:33 PM
Sincerest thanks for the information. Iam looking at criteria 1 to 10 in the list that you have provided. I believe that I can gather evidence to satisfy 2 criteria�s completely and maybe 1 partially, does that suffice or there is a rule that atleast say 4 / 10 or X / 10 should be satisfied as a minimum. Most of the criteria�s are actually meant for distinguished people in research, whereas my profile is more of an IT application developer / designer.
Please read the text in the USCIS page carefully. You need to clearly satisfy at least 3 criteria. In practice, you try to provide at least some evidence for most criteria.
Note also that you need to provide evidence of sustained fulfillment. E.g., suppose you want to show that
"Evidence that the alien has judged the work of others, either individually or on a panel;"
This is *not* satisfied, e.g., if you graded the papers of your students or did code-reviews! This is likely satisfied if you, e.g., were in an IEEE standards committee (especially if the standard becomes well known, e.g., IEEE 802.11, or Firewire, etc.). Similarly, if you just participated in a panel once, then the reviewer is likely to reject your claim; you really want to show that you regularly (e.g., once a month for last 3-4 years) participate in panels, etc. In my own case, I reviewed literally 100's of conference and journal papers, and was in the TPC of many conferences, and also participated in an NSF panel for reviewing proposals for funding.
The reviewer will want evidence for each criteria. Sometimes you may be able to use the same evidence towards more than one criteria, but generally it is not the case.
Finally remember that you need *very strong* recommendation letters from "well known" people *all over the world". Most people gets some letters from US, some from their home country, some from Europe, other countries, etc. I had about 10-15 letters from US, China, India, Netherlands, etc. The letter writer in each case must be very well known, and must hold a very high position (e.g., one of my letter writer was one of the heads of Philips research).
In any case, it does not matter what I or someone else thinks about your qualifications. What matters is what the reviewer of your petition thinks. What I would suggest is that if you feel that you have a good chance at EB1-A (e.g., in your own mind you believe that you truly satisfy 3 criteria), then hire a good attorney and start working on preparing your dossier. The cost will be about $7000-$10,000 (depending upon what attorney you choose). Attorneys will charge much more for EB1 petitions since they actually have to work on it (rather than get a para-legal fill-in forms, as done in EB2 applications). It usually takes 4-6 months to get all material, etc.
Please read the text in the USCIS page carefully. You need to clearly satisfy at least 3 criteria. In practice, you try to provide at least some evidence for most criteria.
Note also that you need to provide evidence of sustained fulfillment. E.g., suppose you want to show that
"Evidence that the alien has judged the work of others, either individually or on a panel;"
This is *not* satisfied, e.g., if you graded the papers of your students or did code-reviews! This is likely satisfied if you, e.g., were in an IEEE standards committee (especially if the standard becomes well known, e.g., IEEE 802.11, or Firewire, etc.). Similarly, if you just participated in a panel once, then the reviewer is likely to reject your claim; you really want to show that you regularly (e.g., once a month for last 3-4 years) participate in panels, etc. In my own case, I reviewed literally 100's of conference and journal papers, and was in the TPC of many conferences, and also participated in an NSF panel for reviewing proposals for funding.
The reviewer will want evidence for each criteria. Sometimes you may be able to use the same evidence towards more than one criteria, but generally it is not the case.
Finally remember that you need *very strong* recommendation letters from "well known" people *all over the world". Most people gets some letters from US, some from their home country, some from Europe, other countries, etc. I had about 10-15 letters from US, China, India, Netherlands, etc. The letter writer in each case must be very well known, and must hold a very high position (e.g., one of my letter writer was one of the heads of Philips research).
In any case, it does not matter what I or someone else thinks about your qualifications. What matters is what the reviewer of your petition thinks. What I would suggest is that if you feel that you have a good chance at EB1-A (e.g., in your own mind you believe that you truly satisfy 3 criteria), then hire a good attorney and start working on preparing your dossier. The cost will be about $7000-$10,000 (depending upon what attorney you choose). Attorneys will charge much more for EB1 petitions since they actually have to work on it (rather than get a para-legal fill-in forms, as done in EB2 applications). It usually takes 4-6 months to get all material, etc.
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Rockford
07-17 02:11 PM
Excerpt from Gregs blog and comments :(
"Things are going SOUTH . No agreement and No relief.
Class action is the only option. USCIS just wanted to test the waters and now they don't want to settle. Every thing else is just rumor mill. Every one who claimed to know the insider info was just taken for a ride. Welcome to beltway politics 101."
Guys take it for what it is worth. I am off to work.... :)
"Things are going SOUTH . No agreement and No relief.
Class action is the only option. USCIS just wanted to test the waters and now they don't want to settle. Every thing else is just rumor mill. Every one who claimed to know the insider info was just taken for a ride. Welcome to beltway politics 101."
Guys take it for what it is worth. I am off to work.... :)
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gc_on_demand
04-06 10:34 AM
Could elaborate why you say this is about I140? I couldnt derive that from the posting. Anyhow this whole this is utter nonsense from the immigration department. I dont think there will be any action, period.
The whole thing is written as if June 2007 happened by mistake, I dont buy that.
If publisher understand meaning of Petition vs Application then I 140 is petition which can be approved or denied and doesnot need adjuction. While I 485 is a visa application by individual which can be adjucted if visas are available and petition has been approved.
But here they are talking both words in same sentence. It could be they approved 75k I 140 and adjucted those many 485s. and their goal to have only 55k I 140 on hand.
Still they can approve 65k I 485 from pending backlog. ( 75 + 65 = 140k ). So my understanding is from previous backlog they approved 75k I 140 + I 485. Still 65k visas are left . if these many visas are left then I dont think dates for Eb2 india will go near to 2005.
The whole thing is written as if June 2007 happened by mistake, I dont buy that.
If publisher understand meaning of Petition vs Application then I 140 is petition which can be approved or denied and doesnot need adjuction. While I 485 is a visa application by individual which can be adjucted if visas are available and petition has been approved.
But here they are talking both words in same sentence. It could be they approved 75k I 140 and adjucted those many 485s. and their goal to have only 55k I 140 on hand.
Still they can approve 65k I 485 from pending backlog. ( 75 + 65 = 140k ). So my understanding is from previous backlog they approved 75k I 140 + I 485. Still 65k visas are left . if these many visas are left then I dont think dates for Eb2 india will go near to 2005.
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surabhi
04-08 05:24 AM
This is serious and could affect quite a few.
Summary: you could be affected if ALL of the folllowing is true
1)you have a PD before July 16, 2007 ( likely case is EB3 I/C 2002/2003 PD)
2) you have left your original employer ( whether you stayed for 180 days after I-485 application to comply with AC-21 rule doesnt matter)
3) your original employer has used your labor to subsititute some on else ( before July 16,2007)
Remember you are affected even though you are the original beneficiary.
How did this case happen?
This happend because USCIS not following LIFO processing
1. The original applicat applied labor in April 2001
2. Labor approved in Jan 2002
3. Original applicant applied I-140 in April 2002
4. i-140 approved in July 2002
5. Original applicant applies for I-485 in Dec 2002
In Jan 2004, after more than year ( > 180 days and Ac-21 was enacted), original applicant leaves the employer, presuming that she is safe and covered under Ac-21
Employer promptly writes to USCIS asking to revoke I-140. The employer goes ahead and uses the labor for another person and files I-140
The USCIS apprves I-140 and subsequently I-485 for the subsituted beneficiary.
So how could USCIS approve a I-485 that was filed at least 18 months later than the original applicant. ( May be the subsituted applicant was from different chargeability country and hence could ge approved??)
Now the original applicant is screwed because USCIS cannnot approve 2 I-485 petitions based on same labor.
I feel for the original applicant. She played by rules all along, but got screwed anyway
Now you can see the chances of your case being caught in similar circumstrances
1. You are EB3, India/China with PD around 2002/2003
2. You filed I-485 sometime before July 2007 ( if you filed during July 2007 and you were with original employer at that time, this doesnt apply)
3. You left your original employer before July 2007
4. Unbeknownst to you, your original employer has subsituted your labor for another person.(before July 16, 2007)
5. that other person also filed for I-1485
6. Now its a timebomb waiting to explode
Summary: you could be affected if ALL of the folllowing is true
1)you have a PD before July 16, 2007 ( likely case is EB3 I/C 2002/2003 PD)
2) you have left your original employer ( whether you stayed for 180 days after I-485 application to comply with AC-21 rule doesnt matter)
3) your original employer has used your labor to subsititute some on else ( before July 16,2007)
Remember you are affected even though you are the original beneficiary.
How did this case happen?
This happend because USCIS not following LIFO processing
1. The original applicat applied labor in April 2001
2. Labor approved in Jan 2002
3. Original applicant applied I-140 in April 2002
4. i-140 approved in July 2002
5. Original applicant applies for I-485 in Dec 2002
In Jan 2004, after more than year ( > 180 days and Ac-21 was enacted), original applicant leaves the employer, presuming that she is safe and covered under Ac-21
Employer promptly writes to USCIS asking to revoke I-140. The employer goes ahead and uses the labor for another person and files I-140
The USCIS apprves I-140 and subsequently I-485 for the subsituted beneficiary.
So how could USCIS approve a I-485 that was filed at least 18 months later than the original applicant. ( May be the subsituted applicant was from different chargeability country and hence could ge approved??)
Now the original applicant is screwed because USCIS cannnot approve 2 I-485 petitions based on same labor.
I feel for the original applicant. She played by rules all along, but got screwed anyway
Now you can see the chances of your case being caught in similar circumstrances
1. You are EB3, India/China with PD around 2002/2003
2. You filed I-485 sometime before July 2007 ( if you filed during July 2007 and you were with original employer at that time, this doesnt apply)
3. You left your original employer before July 2007
4. Unbeknownst to you, your original employer has subsituted your labor for another person.(before July 16, 2007)
5. that other person also filed for I-1485
6. Now its a timebomb waiting to explode
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vegi_hyd@yahoo.com
06-07 09:55 AM
I would (and did) send to the address on the confirmation page. If you search for other forums on EAD filing recently, that is what is also recommended there
Thanks JackisBack.
Thanks JackisBack.
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TeddyKoochu
10-15 08:29 AM
Teddy
Is there any source on any site which gives idea that they are thinking of it. Since we have close to 800 members who joined for filling 485 when date is not current we can ask IV core to make this campaign officially and push for this one. Even we know 800 are not a good strength still it may help if govt is willing
gc_on_demand - Here are the links from other sites.
From Ron Gotcher's Forum
http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/general-immigration-questions/10321-uscis-considering-permit-pre-filing-i-485-applications-approved-i-140-a.html
I could not find anything on any official site. There are blogs going on all popular immigration sites on this topic.
I believe that since the agencies are thinking about this provision (Even though this has been in the news since a year) has better likelihood of being implemented.
skgs200,aksharan, cbpds the EAD / AP part appears to be disputed nobody is clear on this. Yes there maybe a fee for this but it does bring us a step closer.
Is there any source on any site which gives idea that they are thinking of it. Since we have close to 800 members who joined for filling 485 when date is not current we can ask IV core to make this campaign officially and push for this one. Even we know 800 are not a good strength still it may help if govt is willing
gc_on_demand - Here are the links from other sites.
From Ron Gotcher's Forum
http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/general-immigration-questions/10321-uscis-considering-permit-pre-filing-i-485-applications-approved-i-140-a.html
I could not find anything on any official site. There are blogs going on all popular immigration sites on this topic.
I believe that since the agencies are thinking about this provision (Even though this has been in the news since a year) has better likelihood of being implemented.
skgs200,aksharan, cbpds the EAD / AP part appears to be disputed nobody is clear on this. Yes there maybe a fee for this but it does bring us a step closer.
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lost_in_migration
11-08 02:05 PM
Why are number of I-485 less than number of I-130
I-130, Petition for Alien Relative
I-140, Immigrant Petition for Alien Worker
Both require a I-485 to adjust status
I-130, Petition for Alien Relative
I-140, Immigrant Petition for Alien Worker
Both require a I-485 to adjust status
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gcformeornot
04-07 01:01 PM
AAO Decision on Substituted Labor Certifications (http://www.cilawgroup.com/news/2010/04/03/aao-decision-on-substituted-labor-certifications/)
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krishnam70
03-13 05:23 PM
but i asked this question to find the legality of this issue before reporting someone to the USCIS that i know is doing this.I just used I instead of someone in my thread to start the discussion.
Who do i complain to in this case?
Vow quite a turnaround. First you say its you who want to do it and when you get the heat you claim otherwise.
Either way this is pure 'FRAUD' . If you are the person who is doing it USCIS will have ways to track it and it will come back during your Naturalization or at any time when u enter the country. If you are just trying to report this to authorities you can do so at your state DOL or write a letter to USCIS with details if you have it.
- cheers
kris
Who do i complain to in this case?
Vow quite a turnaround. First you say its you who want to do it and when you get the heat you claim otherwise.
Either way this is pure 'FRAUD' . If you are the person who is doing it USCIS will have ways to track it and it will come back during your Naturalization or at any time when u enter the country. If you are just trying to report this to authorities you can do so at your state DOL or write a letter to USCIS with details if you have it.
- cheers
kris
potatoeater
05-10 10:43 PM
Don't do it. Its a trick!!! You will be run over by really big airplanes!! I mean really big!
there is a huge run way... Try to make use of it.
there is a huge run way... Try to make use of it.
BeCoolGuy
04-13 08:02 AM
Always speak the truth..!!!
Remember, DOL is not depending only on you to find out the truth. The way it works is, if your employer comes under investigation, they'll first try to establish the facts, from DOL LCAs (all for H1Bs, and report fraud to USCIS if necessary). Most likely your name/details came up from LCAs, which are public information. When they ask you, they are trying to find out, the exact degree of exploitation (if any) and whether you willfully participated in it (fraud or exploitation) or not. DOL after all its investigation, establishes, what they callas 'cause of termination' which will allow you as a H1B employee to move out without any issues of that employer.. In addition to H1b individuals, they may also ask Employer for his tax records, payroll info and bank statements, which will establish the truth.
Two, even if you support your employer (for whatever reasons, including fear or immigration), not everybody will, which in turn will anyways trigger proper investigation and the exposure of truth. So why not to convey the fact which will show up anyways.
Three, At your heart you always know, what the truth is. Go with it. Write minimum on paper, if you are not comfortable writing it all. But definately make it a point to write the truth.
Fourth - If DOL is asking you to verify something, fill in WH4 form and submit to them. This will establish you as one of people who blew the whistle. Law protects (even for immigrants) in this case, and your H1b will be intact. THIS WILL SAVE YOUR IMMIGRATION STATUS LIKE NOTHING ELSE CAN...
AND OFCOURSE, START SEARCHING FOR ANOTHER JOB.
Goodluck
Remember, DOL is not depending only on you to find out the truth. The way it works is, if your employer comes under investigation, they'll first try to establish the facts, from DOL LCAs (all for H1Bs, and report fraud to USCIS if necessary). Most likely your name/details came up from LCAs, which are public information. When they ask you, they are trying to find out, the exact degree of exploitation (if any) and whether you willfully participated in it (fraud or exploitation) or not. DOL after all its investigation, establishes, what they callas 'cause of termination' which will allow you as a H1B employee to move out without any issues of that employer.. In addition to H1b individuals, they may also ask Employer for his tax records, payroll info and bank statements, which will establish the truth.
Two, even if you support your employer (for whatever reasons, including fear or immigration), not everybody will, which in turn will anyways trigger proper investigation and the exposure of truth. So why not to convey the fact which will show up anyways.
Three, At your heart you always know, what the truth is. Go with it. Write minimum on paper, if you are not comfortable writing it all. But definately make it a point to write the truth.
Fourth - If DOL is asking you to verify something, fill in WH4 form and submit to them. This will establish you as one of people who blew the whistle. Law protects (even for immigrants) in this case, and your H1b will be intact. THIS WILL SAVE YOUR IMMIGRATION STATUS LIKE NOTHING ELSE CAN...
AND OFCOURSE, START SEARCHING FOR ANOTHER JOB.
Goodluck
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