SunnySurya
08-18 01:10 PM
Not sure what IV core can do here. Can people contact their lawyers to speak to AILA about this...
I think IV core shud take the matter with USCIS or the concerned people.
I think IV core shud take the matter with USCIS or the concerned people.
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franklin
07-10 03:42 AM
nobody has talked about a rally in LA... maybe infront of the Federal building in Westwood... I can initiate if I have couple of more volunteers to help me. If we have this rally on July 28, we will have ample time to arrange for people, etc...
I suggest you join the SoCal state chapter, they seem to be interested in doing something as well
I suggest you join the SoCal state chapter, they seem to be interested in doing something as well
minimalist
01-30 08:31 PM
don't have the guts to take care of anything person to person. That will only go to show how right the right things you do are. Do you know how a person that never does a wrong thing ( "I always do the right thing regardless of the time or place") threatens that he will bring people who do not belong in the conversation to the conversation to show how capable he is.
So let me get this straight, in your culture doing the right thing means cuss others using degrading words directed at their family mebers passes for bravery, which is a "RIGHT THING"
Now, you haven't answered the questio I posed to you about never doing a wrong thing in your life.
To answer your question on why they need compassion, he tried to get H1 and earn sme money. Now the economy went down and screwed up his visa status and brought on more possible troubles most of them may or may not materialize.
You can respond in two way. He got what he deserved or help him find a way out of the mess. Mind you he is already suffering in terms of the tension he has to bear with respect
to continued stay in US.
And this response is for you minimalist:
I don't have to call you names on this forum, I can send you a pvt. message cussing at you like there's no tomorrow There is going to be many references to your monther, dogs, their reproductive organs, some more references to your sisters, and all the female members of your family. You are not going to like what you'll read, but that's what you get for calling me names.
Coming to your point: Who are those people that are facing legal action again? And you're telling ME, that I dont have compassion? Compassion for who? For someone who has faked resumes, filed for H-1B visas w/o a job offer? And why do you think they deserve compassion?
So let me get this straight, in your culture doing the right thing means cuss others using degrading words directed at their family mebers passes for bravery, which is a "RIGHT THING"
Now, you haven't answered the questio I posed to you about never doing a wrong thing in your life.
To answer your question on why they need compassion, he tried to get H1 and earn sme money. Now the economy went down and screwed up his visa status and brought on more possible troubles most of them may or may not materialize.
You can respond in two way. He got what he deserved or help him find a way out of the mess. Mind you he is already suffering in terms of the tension he has to bear with respect
to continued stay in US.
And this response is for you minimalist:
I don't have to call you names on this forum, I can send you a pvt. message cussing at you like there's no tomorrow There is going to be many references to your monther, dogs, their reproductive organs, some more references to your sisters, and all the female members of your family. You are not going to like what you'll read, but that's what you get for calling me names.
Coming to your point: Who are those people that are facing legal action again? And you're telling ME, that I dont have compassion? Compassion for who? For someone who has faked resumes, filed for H-1B visas w/o a job offer? And why do you think they deserve compassion?
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VMH_GC
07-19 08:45 PM
Could you please help us doing that ? I asked GSC999 for the same thing. There is no reply yet.
Goto this link https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=writely&passive=true&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2F&followup=http%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2F<mpl=homepage&nui=1
and click create account now link. Enter your existing email address. For this purpose you can create one yahoo id and use that id with password you have given. you are all set.
You would get an email to verify your email address. Once email address is verified. You can use the email id and password to login to google excel.
create an excel and share it. in the share page check the radio button "as collaborators" and check "Anyone can view this document at:" checkbox and paste the link you under that check box in this forum. Hope this helps. If you need further help, let me know
Goto this link https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=writely&passive=true&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2F&followup=http%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2F<mpl=homepage&nui=1
and click create account now link. Enter your existing email address. For this purpose you can create one yahoo id and use that id with password you have given. you are all set.
You would get an email to verify your email address. Once email address is verified. You can use the email id and password to login to google excel.
create an excel and share it. in the share page check the radio button "as collaborators" and check "Anyone can view this document at:" checkbox and paste the link you under that check box in this forum. Hope this helps. If you need further help, let me know
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chanduv23
07-08 11:23 AM
I agree. Since Employment based immigration is driven by Employer needs, employer has the bigger say.
Since the process is driven by Employer needs, whole immigration process depends on it. Is it fair from employee point of view? Most likely, not. But, thats how current laws are in place. Changing these laws are not easy, to say the least.
This is really a very unfortunate situation.
The big difference between EAD (for AC-21) and GC is that AC-21 employer has to provide supporting EVL document to continue pending I-485. Now, it is upto the applicant how he/she passes this information to the employer when he/she joins that AC-21 job.
Now, many would pass clear info to AC21 employer that they would EVL to support their GC process (I-485) and no other sponsorship is required. Now, its upto their mutual agreement on EVL. Employer is, within his rights, not to support or issue AC-21 EVL letter.
On the practical side, vast majority of employer have no issues with such EVL letters.
Big companies, of course, go with their legal team recommendation as their main purpose to run their business with least legal hassels.
It is two-way street. If employer is really good, employee will make extra effort on his job. IF employee is valuable (from employer's point of view), most employer will go extra mile to retain him/her. I have seen many such incidents in 12+ years of professional career.
There is, of course, work politics involved too. Bitching about co-worker, a$$ kissing, nepotism is part of it.
I have seen cases, where one team member is making 115k and another team member, at same role, is making just 85k. This may be unfair, but legal.
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Life is not fair; get used to it. - Bill Gates
Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
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Your perspectives go well beyond what an average immigrant thinks about the whole EB system.
I have seen people "NOT" being themselves and do everything at workplace ONLY because their GC is pending and they do not want to have issues with employer for the sake of GC.
In my opinion, which also complements urs, the whole employment thing - if viewed from the eyes of a common man - one whose immigration status is not tied up with employer, is completely different.
I have seen people facing cultural issues, community issues and a wide range of issues - such things get masked when one's focus is on the GC process, heck leave alone GC - people struggle for even getting h1b and maintaining it.
A lot of people I talk to who come fresh out of school or have 2 years of experience or so, think that they have certain skills and employers would not live without them - whereas it is THEIR struggle to maintain h1b and also work towards GC on long run. All this is nothing but lack of thought process that people must apply but will not because their primary aim is to work out a sponser.
I am not blaming an employee or employer for this but this entire EB based system is set up in that way.
Since the process is driven by Employer needs, whole immigration process depends on it. Is it fair from employee point of view? Most likely, not. But, thats how current laws are in place. Changing these laws are not easy, to say the least.
This is really a very unfortunate situation.
The big difference between EAD (for AC-21) and GC is that AC-21 employer has to provide supporting EVL document to continue pending I-485. Now, it is upto the applicant how he/she passes this information to the employer when he/she joins that AC-21 job.
Now, many would pass clear info to AC21 employer that they would EVL to support their GC process (I-485) and no other sponsorship is required. Now, its upto their mutual agreement on EVL. Employer is, within his rights, not to support or issue AC-21 EVL letter.
On the practical side, vast majority of employer have no issues with such EVL letters.
Big companies, of course, go with their legal team recommendation as their main purpose to run their business with least legal hassels.
It is two-way street. If employer is really good, employee will make extra effort on his job. IF employee is valuable (from employer's point of view), most employer will go extra mile to retain him/her. I have seen many such incidents in 12+ years of professional career.
There is, of course, work politics involved too. Bitching about co-worker, a$$ kissing, nepotism is part of it.
I have seen cases, where one team member is making 115k and another team member, at same role, is making just 85k. This may be unfair, but legal.
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Life is not fair; get used to it. - Bill Gates
Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
.
Your perspectives go well beyond what an average immigrant thinks about the whole EB system.
I have seen people "NOT" being themselves and do everything at workplace ONLY because their GC is pending and they do not want to have issues with employer for the sake of GC.
In my opinion, which also complements urs, the whole employment thing - if viewed from the eyes of a common man - one whose immigration status is not tied up with employer, is completely different.
I have seen people facing cultural issues, community issues and a wide range of issues - such things get masked when one's focus is on the GC process, heck leave alone GC - people struggle for even getting h1b and maintaining it.
A lot of people I talk to who come fresh out of school or have 2 years of experience or so, think that they have certain skills and employers would not live without them - whereas it is THEIR struggle to maintain h1b and also work towards GC on long run. All this is nothing but lack of thought process that people must apply but will not because their primary aim is to work out a sponser.
I am not blaming an employee or employer for this but this entire EB based system is set up in that way.
abq_gc
08-18 02:44 PM
How do you know that people with more recent priority dates are getting approved and you have been left out? You know this because these members of IV share this info with you and you are talking about using this info against them.
I won't be surprised if this will discourage people to just silently leave the forum after getting approvals.
well if they want to do that.. they can do that... wont discourage us from fighting this injustice against everyone in the legal immigration community... i for one consider the plight of EB-3 at this time to be more than that of EB-2... but why are just fighting among ourselves... instead of doing something as a group ??
I won't be surprised if this will discourage people to just silently leave the forum after getting approvals.
well if they want to do that.. they can do that... wont discourage us from fighting this injustice against everyone in the legal immigration community... i for one consider the plight of EB-3 at this time to be more than that of EB-2... but why are just fighting among ourselves... instead of doing something as a group ??
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mirage
03-08 08:38 PM
This is what puzzles me, on one hand you tell us 'You couldn't even begin to imagine how many cases like this there are'....
Which is exactly I have been saying, unless we do something EB3 India could be waiting for a decade or 2...
But on the other hand if I want to address this issue in a manner which could see least resistance, you tells me I'm living in 'Utopia', administrator threatens to 'Ban' me ????
On other hand
There are still lots of cases in eb3 from back that far.
Many of the eb3 245i cases; there dependents were outside USA. Once; they got greencards; then their dependents went for consular processing or are going for consular processing.
One of the cases I worked on ability to pay; person had adopted her nephew so that he could get greencard as dependent. You couldn't even begin to imagine how many cases like this there are.
Which is exactly I have been saying, unless we do something EB3 India could be waiting for a decade or 2...
But on the other hand if I want to address this issue in a manner which could see least resistance, you tells me I'm living in 'Utopia', administrator threatens to 'Ban' me ????
On other hand
There are still lots of cases in eb3 from back that far.
Many of the eb3 245i cases; there dependents were outside USA. Once; they got greencards; then their dependents went for consular processing or are going for consular processing.
One of the cases I worked on ability to pay; person had adopted her nephew so that he could get greencard as dependent. You couldn't even begin to imagine how many cases like this there are.
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hebbar77
09-09 09:16 PM
Getting sick of this movement in dates.
Illegal guy in US makes more money & without any hassle.
Trying to stay legally hurts very much for the past 9 years.
Atleast they should allow to pre-file I-485 so that atleast guys like me (when we missed july 2007 race) can just file and complete the verification process in I-485.
Are you saying illegals are smart? Or smart poeple are here illegally?
Illegal guy in US makes more money & without any hassle.
Trying to stay legally hurts very much for the past 9 years.
Atleast they should allow to pre-file I-485 so that atleast guys like me (when we missed july 2007 race) can just file and complete the verification process in I-485.
Are you saying illegals are smart? Or smart poeple are here illegally?
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midguy
03-26 12:08 PM
Hi All,
just want estimate and plan ....my PD is 16-June-2003 EB3 India. When can my date will current.
Thank you.
just want estimate and plan ....my PD is 16-June-2003 EB3 India. When can my date will current.
Thank you.
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Mehul
11-21 03:03 PM
And what should the person/family do right now?
Return to their country like nothing happened? What about the primary applicant's present job?
Just live here in the USA, as if nothing happened? What happens to the family if they go out of status all of a sudden?
There is no need to make the GC your only goal in life, but please don't be insensitive... there is much more to the issue than meets the eye!
Let me answer that. I am from Fiji but I was born in India so I am stuck with rest of you and for my family going back is not an option. Fiji is very hostile to indians living there so for us it's here or nowhere. May be india is an option but we have very few distant relatives in India as both of our parents has passed away.
Though it is a big shock for me and my family, I have to get over it and think about their survival after me.
My apologies if I have given the impression as GC greedy but I can understand how difficult it is for someone to understand how is life without something you can call a "Home"
Return to their country like nothing happened? What about the primary applicant's present job?
Just live here in the USA, as if nothing happened? What happens to the family if they go out of status all of a sudden?
There is no need to make the GC your only goal in life, but please don't be insensitive... there is much more to the issue than meets the eye!
Let me answer that. I am from Fiji but I was born in India so I am stuck with rest of you and for my family going back is not an option. Fiji is very hostile to indians living there so for us it's here or nowhere. May be india is an option but we have very few distant relatives in India as both of our parents has passed away.
Though it is a big shock for me and my family, I have to get over it and think about their survival after me.
My apologies if I have given the impression as GC greedy but I can understand how difficult it is for someone to understand how is life without something you can call a "Home"
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sbabunle
03-09 02:23 PM
sorry msp1976. You are not alone. I've a slightly different story.
I came in 1998. Was working with Indian startup. He screwed me
up big time. ( I decided after that I will never work for Indian employers).
He kept on telling me now, tomorrow..for starting GC process. Finlly
he told me to go back to Indian office( In 2001). So I quit.
I joined with new company. After 1 year they agreed to start
GC for me. Another Desi in the company already started his GC.
I had to go with that lawyer, since company doesn't want to deal
with 2 lawyers. There was something going on between this lawyer
and this Desi guy. Anyway this lawyer took all papers from me
and told me everything filed. After one year I came to know that
he did not do a thing. So in effect I miss the golden chance.
I had to start again. In 2003 middle they filed again. And
then the retrogression.....The story goes on....
After two years in the US, I told my employer that I want to file for GC...
Going to and fro he spent 8 months sayign that he is in the process of doing it...Then he gave me the papers to sign...After that he kept telling me that the lawyer had filed it for one and a half year...In April 04 employer changed lawyers...The new lawyer tried to find all cases at the DOL...My case and one of my friends case is 'missing'...They telling me that is old lawyers fault.....They told us to file a new cases...I am sitting around since July 04.....I am so sick of this whole thing.....
July 04 was my chance to change job or go back...I decided to stick with the job...my bad...Now I am really stuck.....Am waiting for 8th year extension...Wife finishing MS in May and baby on way....I am stuck with dead end job...not well paid......
I came in 1998. Was working with Indian startup. He screwed me
up big time. ( I decided after that I will never work for Indian employers).
He kept on telling me now, tomorrow..for starting GC process. Finlly
he told me to go back to Indian office( In 2001). So I quit.
I joined with new company. After 1 year they agreed to start
GC for me. Another Desi in the company already started his GC.
I had to go with that lawyer, since company doesn't want to deal
with 2 lawyers. There was something going on between this lawyer
and this Desi guy. Anyway this lawyer took all papers from me
and told me everything filed. After one year I came to know that
he did not do a thing. So in effect I miss the golden chance.
I had to start again. In 2003 middle they filed again. And
then the retrogression.....The story goes on....
After two years in the US, I told my employer that I want to file for GC...
Going to and fro he spent 8 months sayign that he is in the process of doing it...Then he gave me the papers to sign...After that he kept telling me that the lawyer had filed it for one and a half year...In April 04 employer changed lawyers...The new lawyer tried to find all cases at the DOL...My case and one of my friends case is 'missing'...They telling me that is old lawyers fault.....They told us to file a new cases...I am sitting around since July 04.....I am so sick of this whole thing.....
July 04 was my chance to change job or go back...I decided to stick with the job...my bad...Now I am really stuck.....Am waiting for 8th year extension...Wife finishing MS in May and baby on way....I am stuck with dead end job...not well paid......
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MCQ
05-01 03:14 PM
I have long been of the opinion - told to me by an immigration lawyer, that when you file your I-485 when the PD is current, and your dependents file also that only the Primary counts towards the quota, dependent GC's do not count towards the employment based visa quota - so this may be a moot point as to whether or not they should be in the family or employment based lists.
Much like when you file for an H1B, the H4 for your dependants does not count agains the overall H quota.
Much like when you file for an H1B, the H4 for your dependants does not count agains the overall H quota.
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bigboy007
05-12 09:48 PM
Not sure Why IV Core should respond when a category goes off... They are working united for all overall suffering and pain for all categories...
Hoping to get some direction / response from IV core.. surprisingly quiet CORE grp this time..
Hoping to get some direction / response from IV core.. surprisingly quiet CORE grp this time..
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sbabunle
05-03 06:21 PM
I agree with MChundi here. I have been in this process since 2002 and have worked closely with my lawyers but it never ceases to amaze me how much complexity is built into the GC system. Putting the ads, applying for labor, aplying for I-140 answering any throwbacks from DOL/UCSIS. TO add to that the goof ups by the immigration lawyers and their para-legals certainly confuses the hell out of u.
Most ppl who apply for GCs are unaware about retrogression and PBEC problems at the onset. Even if they are aware u think, "well, my labour will take abt a year or so so by then hopefully things will become current". I mean not a lot of us, have the time or the foresight to plan THAT much in advance.
Now if we as H1s dont know the deal here, H4's CERTAINLY dont know the deal and it takes them a LOT more time to grasp the reality of things coz they have to absorb many other things like learning how to drive here, learning how the credit system works here etc etc etc.
All that being said, i would ask the H4's to try and avoid pointing blame at the IV members. This is not an easy process for sure. We are in NO position to demand anything from the US Govt. Whatever progress we have made is also quite phenomenal. I Still cant believe we collected even $100,000+ !! Right now the best strategy is to solve the primary applicant's problems and try and get the dependents problems go away along with that.
I agree with you eb3-nepa. My story is pretty much same as yours. Its not
a good idea to blame IV. IV is trying to do whatever possible within its limits.
If we are going to point out and resolve the issues in the immigration area the list would grow day by day. I think its better to focus on critical issues ( like retrogression, automatic recapturing of Visas and removing or increasing the per country quota ) and lobby for them. Most importantly DO NOT criticize IV unless absolutley we have to. Because unnecessary criticism may kill many of the volunteers spirits. If we ask for too many things ( like work permissions for H4) we may end up in getting nothing.
I hope and pray some good law will come up where there will be some good for everyone.
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babu
Most ppl who apply for GCs are unaware about retrogression and PBEC problems at the onset. Even if they are aware u think, "well, my labour will take abt a year or so so by then hopefully things will become current". I mean not a lot of us, have the time or the foresight to plan THAT much in advance.
Now if we as H1s dont know the deal here, H4's CERTAINLY dont know the deal and it takes them a LOT more time to grasp the reality of things coz they have to absorb many other things like learning how to drive here, learning how the credit system works here etc etc etc.
All that being said, i would ask the H4's to try and avoid pointing blame at the IV members. This is not an easy process for sure. We are in NO position to demand anything from the US Govt. Whatever progress we have made is also quite phenomenal. I Still cant believe we collected even $100,000+ !! Right now the best strategy is to solve the primary applicant's problems and try and get the dependents problems go away along with that.
I agree with you eb3-nepa. My story is pretty much same as yours. Its not
a good idea to blame IV. IV is trying to do whatever possible within its limits.
If we are going to point out and resolve the issues in the immigration area the list would grow day by day. I think its better to focus on critical issues ( like retrogression, automatic recapturing of Visas and removing or increasing the per country quota ) and lobby for them. Most importantly DO NOT criticize IV unless absolutley we have to. Because unnecessary criticism may kill many of the volunteers spirits. If we ask for too many things ( like work permissions for H4) we may end up in getting nothing.
I hope and pray some good law will come up where there will be some good for everyone.
thanks
babu
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stuckinmuck
05-28 02:12 PM
A Great New Commission
May 27, 2007
An Open Letter to:
The United States Senate
The United States House of Representatives
Re: A Great New Commission
Ladies and Gentlemen:
Our nation holds paramount equal treatment under the law. My principal question is, what federal laws may I break so that I am rewarded with amnesty to the tune of $18,000 per year?
That would bring me parity with the estimated costs to society of illegal aliens. These are in health, education and related social benefits. Oh, and the approximately 30 percent of our prison population which is comprised of some of these aliens. Seems some of the cost is borne by victims who are assaulted by aliens doing the crimes Americans just won�t do.
I�ll even give you a bargain. As a small business owner, my real and opportunity costs to comply with federal statutes and regulations are substantial. These are not taxes, they are non-deductible costs I incur to comply with federal law. My daughter�s chronic medical condition and my own heart condition also incur substantial expenses. Regarding our health, my family is uninsurable due to these conditions. We have never received assistance under any state or federal programs.
All of these costs come to something over $27,000 per year. So, when you give me my amnesty and my $18,000 per year, you will fall short of my expenses by approximately $9,000. Since you are wise in the ways of federal accounting, you can inform your constituents that you have in fact saved $9,000 per year, in addition to the moral claim of having granted me amnesty.
It will be appropriate to consider that in fairness my children should be due anchor amnesty. This from the fact that they still will be my dependents when you soon grant me amnesty. If you delay, well, my daughter will always be my dependent.
Considering possible delays, especially since fellow citizens will have their own tailored amnesty petitions, I understand if you need to charter a Federal Amnesty Commission. That is sure to renew respect for and compliance with the laws you draft. Any shortfall in compliance, up to say, twelve million offenses, you could graciously accept as appropriate civil disobedience. After all, that would assure you more press time as we enter this latest election cycle.
You are wise also in federal laws which may be broken with no consequence. I am too busy supporting my family, you, and the twelve million scofflaws and their employers to understand such matters, so I need your guidance. You know where I live, my drivers license number, my social security number, my bank and credit account numbers, as well as my email, internet service provider, taxpayer identification number, mortgage holder, business licenses and telephone numbers.
Please contact me soon. Given the rising medical and other costs, I need that $18,000 quickly and retroactive to the enactment date of S.1348. It�s only fair.
Cordially,
<First Name> <Last Name>
May 27, 2007
An Open Letter to:
The United States Senate
The United States House of Representatives
Re: A Great New Commission
Ladies and Gentlemen:
Our nation holds paramount equal treatment under the law. My principal question is, what federal laws may I break so that I am rewarded with amnesty to the tune of $18,000 per year?
That would bring me parity with the estimated costs to society of illegal aliens. These are in health, education and related social benefits. Oh, and the approximately 30 percent of our prison population which is comprised of some of these aliens. Seems some of the cost is borne by victims who are assaulted by aliens doing the crimes Americans just won�t do.
I�ll even give you a bargain. As a small business owner, my real and opportunity costs to comply with federal statutes and regulations are substantial. These are not taxes, they are non-deductible costs I incur to comply with federal law. My daughter�s chronic medical condition and my own heart condition also incur substantial expenses. Regarding our health, my family is uninsurable due to these conditions. We have never received assistance under any state or federal programs.
All of these costs come to something over $27,000 per year. So, when you give me my amnesty and my $18,000 per year, you will fall short of my expenses by approximately $9,000. Since you are wise in the ways of federal accounting, you can inform your constituents that you have in fact saved $9,000 per year, in addition to the moral claim of having granted me amnesty.
It will be appropriate to consider that in fairness my children should be due anchor amnesty. This from the fact that they still will be my dependents when you soon grant me amnesty. If you delay, well, my daughter will always be my dependent.
Considering possible delays, especially since fellow citizens will have their own tailored amnesty petitions, I understand if you need to charter a Federal Amnesty Commission. That is sure to renew respect for and compliance with the laws you draft. Any shortfall in compliance, up to say, twelve million offenses, you could graciously accept as appropriate civil disobedience. After all, that would assure you more press time as we enter this latest election cycle.
You are wise also in federal laws which may be broken with no consequence. I am too busy supporting my family, you, and the twelve million scofflaws and their employers to understand such matters, so I need your guidance. You know where I live, my drivers license number, my social security number, my bank and credit account numbers, as well as my email, internet service provider, taxpayer identification number, mortgage holder, business licenses and telephone numbers.
Please contact me soon. Given the rising medical and other costs, I need that $18,000 quickly and retroactive to the enactment date of S.1348. It�s only fair.
Cordially,
<First Name> <Last Name>
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ssa
07-28 12:47 PM
What exactly is the point of this rambling debate? Does anybody really thinks he/she can make an EB2 see the point of view of EB3 or vice-a-versa? No amount of legal/moral/philosophical arguments is going to convince the other party and we all know it.
All this debate has done is to bring out the ugliest side of all of us to the surface. There are EB2s claiming every EB2 is by definition superior than EB3 which is insane. And there is an EB3 who is itching to take help of none other than Ron Hira to shot down somebody's GC application as a retribution and couple of people applauding him for the brilliant idea! Really? Do we really thinks this is such a grand idea?
Just accept that everyone's only guiding principle here is self interest and move along. No need to jump through hoops to interpret the immigration law in 101 different ways and no need to call attention to personal suffering and plight. If we do really believe personal suffering should take precedence over everything else on humanitarian grounds then lets all first fight for illegal immigrants since their suffering is much worse than anyone here!
EB3s, go run your campaign and stop trying to appeal to EB2's sense of justice. That will never happen.
EB2s, stop trying to expect EB3s will accept higher EB preference categories should in fact get preference over the lower ones. That will never happen.
The only thing we all can hopefully agree on is, if there is anyone here - doesn't matter EB2 or EB3- who is fiercely debating this but has never contributed to IV and has never participated in any of the previous IV action items in the past that person should just shut up! If you were never active in IV you shouldn't really be talking at this point!!
All this debate has done is to bring out the ugliest side of all of us to the surface. There are EB2s claiming every EB2 is by definition superior than EB3 which is insane. And there is an EB3 who is itching to take help of none other than Ron Hira to shot down somebody's GC application as a retribution and couple of people applauding him for the brilliant idea! Really? Do we really thinks this is such a grand idea?
Just accept that everyone's only guiding principle here is self interest and move along. No need to jump through hoops to interpret the immigration law in 101 different ways and no need to call attention to personal suffering and plight. If we do really believe personal suffering should take precedence over everything else on humanitarian grounds then lets all first fight for illegal immigrants since their suffering is much worse than anyone here!
EB3s, go run your campaign and stop trying to appeal to EB2's sense of justice. That will never happen.
EB2s, stop trying to expect EB3s will accept higher EB preference categories should in fact get preference over the lower ones. That will never happen.
The only thing we all can hopefully agree on is, if there is anyone here - doesn't matter EB2 or EB3- who is fiercely debating this but has never contributed to IV and has never participated in any of the previous IV action items in the past that person should just shut up! If you were never active in IV you shouldn't really be talking at this point!!
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pd_recapturing
08-18 01:12 PM
why cant we just file a lawsuit ??? What's stopping us from doing that ?
Where is IV core these days ? There has not been any news from them for so long.
Where is IV core these days ? There has not been any news from them for so long.
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vxb2004
11-25 07:45 PM
Hi,
Yesterday I got the response for my SR opened on 10/16 for still not receiving FP notice yet. The letter says that the processing on my case has been delayed since the background check on my application is still open. Please contact after 6 months if you still haven't heard back from us. My assumptions are:
1. Since they did not mention any where in the letter about biometrics, they are talking about my 485 petition and not my finger printing notice. Guess they misunderstood why I opened the SR with them. Does that make sense?
2.Is it possible that I haven't received FP notice since my background check is still in progress? I thought that these were two independent process...
Any suggestions would be appreciated!
Thanks.
Apahilaj,
FP is definitely not connected to background check. I am sailing in the same boat. My application date was july 17th and notice day was Sep 10th. I opened a SR 45 days back with no response. NSC-TSC transfer case..:confused:
Yesterday I got the response for my SR opened on 10/16 for still not receiving FP notice yet. The letter says that the processing on my case has been delayed since the background check on my application is still open. Please contact after 6 months if you still haven't heard back from us. My assumptions are:
1. Since they did not mention any where in the letter about biometrics, they are talking about my 485 petition and not my finger printing notice. Guess they misunderstood why I opened the SR with them. Does that make sense?
2.Is it possible that I haven't received FP notice since my background check is still in progress? I thought that these were two independent process...
Any suggestions would be appreciated!
Thanks.
Apahilaj,
FP is definitely not connected to background check. I am sailing in the same boat. My application date was july 17th and notice day was Sep 10th. I opened a SR 45 days back with no response. NSC-TSC transfer case..:confused:
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forever
08-03 04:11 PM
HelloGC07,
Which state do you live in?
Which state do you live in?
reddymjm
06-07 05:55 AM
It is better to take your time and make sure everything is sound, then hurry and miss something.
Can you guys let me know whether your checks payable to "Department of Homeland Security" has been canceled? They received my application on June/4 but my check has not been cashed yet. I heard your priority date is the date they actually get your money. Is this true?
My attorney said the checks should be payable to USCIS not DHS. The PD is always ur LC filed date. Receipt date is when the application is received and notice date is when they assing a LIN/wac number and take ur money.
Can you guys let me know whether your checks payable to "Department of Homeland Security" has been canceled? They received my application on June/4 but my check has not been cashed yet. I heard your priority date is the date they actually get your money. Is this true?
My attorney said the checks should be payable to USCIS not DHS. The PD is always ur LC filed date. Receipt date is when the application is received and notice date is when they assing a LIN/wac number and take ur money.
alterego
03-09 06:47 PM
While your story is interesting, but I beg to differ again, because, immigration is not something which would be discussed in the Congress for the first time, if we are successfull in bringing something. Each and every single lawmaker in this country understand immigration to the extent that you may not even start to guess...People who oppose us have been putting their restrictive bills again and again so they are going to continue doing that despite of us do something or sleep, do you think Numbersusa wait for us to do something, their anti.... mill will keep churning.
Sometimes you have to see the other perspective rather than just defending a point of view.
Now is not a good time for immigrants. The EB5 investor visa, which is a no brainer in this economy has been kicked on like a can for 6 mths at a time, congressmen that are pro- immigration are laying low. Anti-immigrant forces are gearing up for a big assault in coming weeks, the American public is unsympathetic given their own issues. Against this backdrop why would we launch such an effort. Basically now is the time to play Defense not Offense. Do all you can to hang on to your job, keep your savings liquid. Wait for any opportunities to arise, and wait for the storm to pass.
After the great depression, this country virtually shut down immigration for the next few decades. Likewise they slowed it down in the early 80s and again in the early 90s. Right about now, no change is a good thing IMHO, as bad as that sounds, as change will not be in your favor.
Sometimes you have to see the other perspective rather than just defending a point of view.
Now is not a good time for immigrants. The EB5 investor visa, which is a no brainer in this economy has been kicked on like a can for 6 mths at a time, congressmen that are pro- immigration are laying low. Anti-immigrant forces are gearing up for a big assault in coming weeks, the American public is unsympathetic given their own issues. Against this backdrop why would we launch such an effort. Basically now is the time to play Defense not Offense. Do all you can to hang on to your job, keep your savings liquid. Wait for any opportunities to arise, and wait for the storm to pass.
After the great depression, this country virtually shut down immigration for the next few decades. Likewise they slowed it down in the early 80s and again in the early 90s. Right about now, no change is a good thing IMHO, as bad as that sounds, as change will not be in your favor.
